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Um, but the, the idea is really if we look at bingo for instance, it, it is an activity I might use with someone living with dementia, but it's not in this idea of just keeping them busy.

If you're playing bingo, you have to be able to read the letteral, the, the numbers.

In, in the US it's a bingo where you say B5 or B.

And, and so you have to look at the, the letteral, then you look at the number.

You have to remember all of that.

Um, you have to be attentive of also do I have a line or not? And, and so there are a lot of different things that come into bingo which I think are also important when we look at dementia and which really keep it, uh, use it or lose it.

Where would you suggest they start with looking to build that connection?

They think it's all memory.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's why I actually did also this.

I'm doing a workshop now on the visual changes because it is something that we kind of forget that dementia is not just about memory.

It's about so much more.

And also memory, it's not just remembering.

We often think about memory as this, I remember what I did yesterday.

it feels