Right.

And if they get into some kind of trouble, to know what kind of an exercise to do to get out of that trouble.

Um, m- frequently I'll have a student come to me and say, "I'm singing this song, and there's only one part that's really difficult for me." Usually it's in a high register or in the, in the place where the voice changes in the middle voice.

And a lot of females now are pulling their voices up, so they're killing themselves.

We have about three minutes.

Okay.

So when I, when I, uh, when I came out here with Mame, it was with Angela Lansbury.

Most people know her from Murder She Wrote, but this was way before that.