So how do you define it? And do you think it's really a rational fear or has it been overblown a bit by some sensational media in the past couple of years?

Yeah, so for me, it's more about what this is really about.

and why the audience read it and reacts to it, right? So I think for buyers, when a buyer choose to purchase carbon credits, the action itself goes beyond the purchase activity.

And they are actually making a public statement about climate action and naturally also what they, you know, worry about, especially from reputation and reputational exposure perspective becomes very real.

We have seen many projects over the past few years which literally faced integrity concerns, community disputes or delivery failures.

So for that front page risk, it's almost like it's a proxy for a broader question.

And that question probably is, can the project withstand scrutiny? And to what extent? And is all of this scrutiny reasonable? I start with the last one, though.

Is there that kind of sentiment there? here in Singapore to try and get people together and share some of the costs of securing credits?