So how does drawing on that experience help position you for Catalyst?

I'll start on this.

A lot.

It's actually the source of the confidence that we should or can do this.

And specifically, it's not thousands, but it's 1,300.

So it's a lot.

And we've had the opportunity both as investors in the dozen or two dozen that we've been involved with formally and in the other several hundred to have then feedback in real time and long term on pitfalls and hazards and also successes and wins.

Would you say that your target audience for Catalyst are founders?