The cargo thing was empty at the time you were trying.

There were some fox gloves in it, which also, I'm sure, added to the amusement of people watching us going, what the hell is going on? So I had a white beam tree and a birch tree.

Two fine native Irish trees.

No, they weren't big.

They weren't big.

And then a lot of fox gloves.

So, you know, it was quite a full cargo area.

That's very annoying.

for that and not many people did in the 80s you know what i mean like you kind of just talk through it and so so that that kind of thing of uh which uh i feel never never never affected us really you know what i mean like but it was it was very hard to talk to mom about stuff like that it was very hard to uh i remember one day she said to me just call me mary she never wanted to be called mom which is fine but it was strange because then you know you know the family around her had of mates around and i'm like mary mary can i get you know can i get something in the fridge and like they thought it was my auntie in the house do you know and uh which is you know which was fine you know like because she was so loving so loving as well like so it was uh but just different different different generations and

you know pet I think fathers really got a very bad deal back then in terms of emotional connection with their kids.

I mean, my dad was absolutely brilliant.

And I should point out, I went to tons of GAA matches with him.

I mean, every weekend we were at GAA games and he was great for that.

But my dad, he worked for most of my childhood, he worked six days a week because people used to work on Saturdays then as well.

So he wasn't a hands on parent at all.

Now listen carefully, Fred.