Can we sort of fairly simply move through what that means?

Yeah, sure.

So the entry criteria for certification are around managing floral resources on the farm.

By that, I mean providing pollen and nectar resources because that's what our pollinators need to survive.

So we also need to provide something flowering all year round because there's no use just having something flowering in the crop window because our native pollinators, our wild pollinators, They need to have something flowering all year round for them to survive.

We also need to provide habitat for those native wild pollinators and habitat can be ground.

Most of our native pollinators actually breed and reproduce in the ground and about a third of them breed and reproduce in hollow stems.

What do they get for that?

Now, as far as how the Varroa moves around from colony to colony, is it moved by the bees themselves or is the transportation of the hives by the beekeepers to certain areas as they move around doing what they've got to do? Does that spread it? I mean, how is this spread?

It's both.

So the migratory nature of beekeeping will move hives, and then as those bees go out and forage on the flowers and get in contact with other bees, they can spread the night.

That's the natural spread.

The big issue is around the...

Well, there's a couple of big issues.

One of them is we've still got high feral bee populations in some areas.

Just on the treatment, I mean, it gives some people a sense of hope, I suppose, but how effective is the treatment?

So there's quite extensive losses there through our natural environment, too, yeah.

That's exactly right.

Those losses will be extensive.

The question then becomes, how do we make up those losses? Where are those losses? Where is pollination going to come from? So we start to see that the other areas where we get pollination from become really critical.

So that's a better understanding of our native wild pollinators and alternate pollinators as well.

There's people looking at commercial production of flies to provide pollination services, use of our native bees.

So there's a range of tools we can use.

What do you hope people do about it?