When did you become inspired by what the All Whites were achieving or what the Wellington Phoenix were doing or what Kiwis all around the world were doing in general? What was the most inspirational moment way back when for you in terms of football?

Well, before I started playing football for a club, I remember seeing the 2010 World Cup and I've spoken before about seeing Winston Reid's goal, not live, but it was on the news.

So I remember seeing it on the news and I always thought that was pretty cool, especially just kind of, I don't know, with his celebration, you know, running off to the corner, everyone following him, that sort of stuff.

That was pretty cool.

And so from there, that's probably the biggest moment of inspiration that I've had.

I mean, I wasn't the biggest watcher of football growing up.

So it probably wasn't until my later years when I started watching the All Whites more and the Phoenix.

I don't want to think too