That's true.

It's not like at the same time when they have the meetings and game plan meetings, it's like, okay, Joe, go and do whatever you want with the offense.

And then we'll do whatever we want with the defense.

No, you got to be at the same page, you know, like...

We're going to play a certain style that I want the offense to be able to have long drives.

I want the defense to be able to not allow quick scores.

And we always saw our defense being a kind of a bend but don't break defense with McDermott.

Yeah, and I remember, for example, against