It's simultaneously about the most exceptional band that ever existed, but it's also about every band that ever existed.

Yes.

Jeff, do you know what I think about all the time in that Beatles film when George comes in with all things must pass and Paul and John aren't really taking it seriously or listening to him? It's a very sort of tired response to it and they end up ditching it and he's trying to get it through.

I think about that almost every single day, that you could have what is a ray of light or one of the great songs ever written in your mind, in your system.

And people as perceptive and as intelligent as Paul McCartney and John Lennon could be hearing it and they could dismiss it because they're in their own worlds.

And I always think as a creative person, remember that because sometimes you, it's just you that knows and there'll be so many walls you have to go through because most people less resilient would see that and go, it's not, I'm chucking it.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

choses oui, oui, je

sais c'était tellement incroyable, tout le monde le regardait et j'avais cette période à cet âge, il n'y avait pas de téléphone, donc je regardais juste le couvercle, je regardais le couvercle pendant des années, je pouvais vous dire tous les détails de cette photo, juste parce que c'est ce que j'ai fait, et j'ai rêvé où Noël était, c'était le lieu où j'allais être, c'est là où j'allais trouver, Quoi que ce soit que tu cherches dans la vie, relâche, relâche, accepte, amour, c'est ce que j'y suis arrivé.

Et j'ai eu cette chose incroyable au dernier show d'Ali Pali, parce que nous étions sur scène depuis des siècles après la dernière chanson, et les gens étaient en train de chanter.

Et j'ai mis mes mains comme ça, et j'ai eu cette...

Oh mon dieu ! C'était comme une histoire inévitable, où j'ai fait...

Et j'ai vu le cover de Noël que j'avais regardé, et j'étais comme, oh mon dieu ! Je l'ai fait.

Je suis là.

oui,

Mm.

Maybe...

Was it last year, before? Anyway, I was having a bit of a weird day where, you know, Chris, you'll know this probably better than these two, but when you're, like, feeling weird and only way you're gonna feel better about life is just to get yourself to football for a couple of hours- Mm ...

where the rest of the world's not gonna matter.

It's gonna be airbrushed out.

So I...

We were playing Kendal Calling, I found the nearest football match, 'cause we weren't on till the evening.

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Mm-hmm.

Roy's team and Roy himself is very much like that.

So as soon as he came, just his sort of general humility suited Fulham a lot.

It wasn't like Sanchez was a bit more boisterous than that and if things were going the other way.

So that was immediately actually just a relief to have someone talking in a, a way that we would align ourselves to.

And you're right about al- all we now know that Roy does Subbuteo 4-4-2, commitment, throwing yourself in front of the ball.

Teams know what you're gonna do, and you have runners.

For the first time maybe you're thinking, "We are actually gonna win a European trophy."

Uh, how would you describe it? What, what, what is it?

Yeah, uh, well, yeah, like, that's a good question actually.

Uh, uh, it's something I didn't think about writing until last year when I was on tour, a little bit lost, felt like I needed somewhere to be.

And I realized Penrith were playing down the road, and it turned out that it was the extra preliminary round of the FA Cup.

And I, the thing that, like, um, you might be aware of if you go and watch very lower league football, or non-league football, is sometimes when you're in the middle of nowhere you cannot get Ubers or cars.

So I couldn't get out of Penrith to the festival, and I had an hour to do it, to get to stage.

And I ended up begging for a lift with the chairman of Penrith, Billy Williams, who, who g- got me in his car and got me to stage.

Of course.