I mean, do you feel like you could have won, like, in the last couple of years, but there was just something a little bit better, a little bit went your way? Was it luck? Was there just something you did a bit better this year?

The interesting thing is, you know, we've... won basically all Eurocups in the last four years.

Eurocups are the events where everyone from the entire world comes to Europe and races.

All the different world champs basically all attend the Eurocup.

We know how to beat them.

I think if you look at the series over the last probably four years, we maybe lost or didn't win two Eurocups or three.

um so we knew that that we can do it we just uh it's just with the world championship it's different right everybody shows up and gives it 150 percent and then on top of that you always get two three boats that don't show up to the euro cups right yeah you can pee to a professional professional match racers protection professionals lgp guys and Then you have a few others, like in Ireland, where we met Jordan, we had those 70 Olympic guys.

I've sailed with a lot of people, and I've sailed with a lot of people with the relaxed attitude, and a lot of people with the aggressive attitude, and the relaxed attitude wins out every time.