But what I'm saying is that there is a permission slip here in this conversation to actually bring yourself front and centre.

Yeah, absolutely.

I fully agree.

And It is quite sad that, you know, in this era of our life, this season of our life, we should have built a lot of confidence.

And I think we have in many ways.

But like you say so beautifully, it's that era of social media and video which makes women of our age go back to feeling so vulnerable again because of, you know.

Again, it's another whole podcast, but the messaging we've been brought up with and then the messaging we are still having heaped upon us and laid upon us now, again, as we are aging.

So where do you start when you're working with women in your mastermind, say, when we need to start and talk about confidence? Where do we start the conversation to work out where to go to next to overcome our particular unique barrier or hurdle or whatever it is, however we want to frame it? Gosh, it is such a good