Fethi, are any of these groups having an influence on South African politics?

I think a central aspect of the behavior of these groups is that they don't want to be traced back to Israel.

And Israeli ministries don't like to appear like they're interfering in politics, but they are.

Through our research, we found it almost impossible to separate Christian Zionist organizing and Christian Zionist networks from official pro-Israel lobbying and pro-Israel groups.

It's not that the networks are so intermingled, it's that networks are in some cases one and the same.

The overlap is just massive.

For example, we have a political party in South Africa called the African Christian Democratic Party.

Fethi, you began to answer my final question for you, which is what can the international solidarity movement do to organize against this phenomenon?