Why is this happening specific- Like, does this happen to all entrepreneurs, or is it just women entrepreneurs who are, like, I don't know, parentified oldest daughters? Like, it just seems to be so pervasive.

Oh my God.

I am so glad that you're [chuckles] starting here about asking whether this is everybody, every entrepreneur.

And I have to say, um, that's actually the reason why I'm doing this work.

I did not set out to work with high achievers, entrepreneurs, and focus on a business growth.

I trained as a psychologist, and my, uh, uh, sort of, uh, specialty was always trauma.

And then I started kind of seeing a lot of patterns coming up in my own self, especially when I decided to go solo and then create my own, um, not just practice, but just my own work, whe- whe- whether it was practice or seminars or...

Like, we're making it harder for ourselves 'cause we are used to that pain, right? Like that...