Mm.

I think all of us as fans wouldn't have been saying from the side, "Let's get these players into the game." So I think he trusts the whole squad.

That's why he selected them.

And I think even if, y- you know, hopefully none of them get a second yellow and miss the semifinal if we get there, but I think he trusts players to come in a- and replace the players that are starting, and I think that's why he's took that squad of players.

I think the best example of discipline I've seen was France versus Paraguay.

I mean, the way they were getting...

Do you know what I mean? The how...

And, and they're not gonna go out and blow the whole budget on one big player if it doesn't sit right with the, with, with, with the club in terms of the right budget for the club and where we're at right now.

You're familiar with this, um, the, the switch between rivals, albeit possibly or historically at least maybe a slightly different culture generally around how they're, uh, received, which maybe, uh, evidence of the last week suggests could be changing.

Yeah.

I mean, it's very difficult in the women's game.

I, I...

At the time I moved from Everton to Liverpool, Everton were, were amateur and, and Liverpool were looking at going part-time, so you get a salary to, to train and then, um, work alongside that.

So mine was more the fact that I wanted to, to focus a little bit more on, you know, training every day and having the, the time to do that, where I didn't have to, you know, be out working, you, you know, 9:00 to 5:00 or whatever, and then do the training in the evening.

I think in Katie McCabe's situation, I mean, for her, if I was in her situation, I'd be really disappointed with the way it was handled from Arsenal.

It's more the club where the point, the anger should be pointing towards.

They will face Spain, who beat Germany on Wednesday, just.Fara Williams, a former player for England, is excited at the prospect of a second consecutive win.

If they are to do it again, it's something that's never been done, certainly not in England.

Uh, only Germany, I think, of back-to-back champions i- in Europe before.

And they're coming up against teams that have invested just like we have, got even better, and they've gone and bought it, and they've gotten themselves to a final.

And as I say, all of us that, you know, probably doubted them going into the tournament and put Spain and Germany in the final, they've, uh, quieted us all out.

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