All right.

And, you know, even in my years before starting Six Pivot, I worked for a consultancy that was similar.

Yes.

And a lot of that we came from a training coaching background, but it was actual developers, software engineers teaching their skills.

So there's always been that kind of philosophy and then really understanding, getting, you know, really hands on with what that end customer is trying to build.

Yes.

If you're building for startups are an interesting one because you really have to understand what and most of them are non-technical founders.

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