who are already there, I think often just fear new people arriving.

Yes and no.

Yes, it is true that some people might feel that.

But there is also, I would say, situations where migrants are being scapegoated.

A couple of years ago, I was out and knocking doors, as we do during election campaigns.

I think it was national elections, if I remember it correctly.

And I knocked on a door and then this old lady opened the door and I asked her, have you decided what to vote? And her first spontaneous reaction was, I'm not going to tell you.

So I think it's a really important tool to also work through these stories.