What has it been like sort of seeing yourself grow and seeing this controversy now that that it's it's a few years away and Abby will start with you and then go to Vanessa

oh my gosh it's it's crazy to watch myself grow up you know I was such like a young teenager and like I loved like my style back then my style's changed a little bit but I still like to be like flashy and dressed up and yeah I got my haircut and it's just been it's been crazy to see myself and like I'm such an idealistic person.

I was a very idealistic person back then, still am.

I think I've gained a more nuanced opinion.

I still believe in open communication for everyone across the political spectrum.

I think it can connect people.

And I think that healthy debate is important to democracy.

How have you been able to keep that together? And has there been a moment where some of the arguments between the adults has put a strain on your bond?