Here's Eve.

[gentle music] Let's begin by settling our body and mind, connecting with the breath and the body.

To help us do so, let's pay attention to the breath.

Inhale, noticing the sensations of breath and inviting a sense of vividness.

Exhale, relaxing, allowing yourself to feel ease.

Inhale, drawing in with that sense of vividness.

Exhale, relaxation and ease.

So in that, in that Atlas and that just, you know, sort of topography of the emotional experience, how do you work with people without just saying, take a deep breath or keep calm and carry on as they say in the UK? Yeah.

I mean, there's not one way, right? And if there was an easy solution, I wouldn't be here talking with you.

It is really tricky, as you said, because we're triggered in a 25th of a second.

So it's actually very fast.

It's faster than conscious awareness.

So while some contemplatives can create these conditions for what's called a bare witnessing or bare awareness, you can actually notice the emotion arise and let it naturally unfold all in its own time.

That's not most of us.

Tell us a little bit about that and maybe even from your own personal experience of grief and loss, how you take