So I'm just curious, what, what'd your path look like? Were you triple A, double A? Did you start late, start early?

Yeah, I, I have two older brothers, so I started as early as I can remember.

Um, we had a outdoor rink down the street from us that we would go to, and, um, and then I played at the local, you know, local, our youth team or whatever, played house league.

And then when I got into, um, you know, minor atom or nine u, whatever it was, I started playing on the Marlies, and they were the closest team to the house, and that's where I played for, for seven years before going to junior A.

And then, um, yeah, and then college, and worked my way up in the pros.

But for me, it was always, school was always a big deal in my family and, and the goal was to get a scholarship.

That was always kinda the end goal.

Right.