Mm.

And there's always something to spend money on from the limited public purse, which can be seen kind of emotively to be a, a more immediate priority as well.

Steve's absolutely right.

You know, we want to see that political support come in, but we also know the, the funding is not gonna come from there.

It's gonna have to be from wider society.

So we have to make the argument in a reasonably simple way to decision-makers and the public that there is something here that is doable and is gonna be beneficial to everyone.

And we know on a case-by-case basis that nature delivers huge co-benefits, which kind of outstrip poured concrete solutions.

Mm