Um, what was the first clue you got that things beneath the surface of the rivers were actually in a really bad way?

I mean, as a, a paddler, you know, when I say ca- canoeist, kayaking, paddleboarders, you're in, you're in the river, you see it, you know.

And, um, you can smell it.

Sometimes you can taste it.

Uh, sometimes you can see it.

And, you know, if you, if you, if you paddle anywhere regularly, you can, you get the sense it's just like, you know, walking your dog around the local area.

If someone's done something or someone's changed something, you, you know, if you're observant, you're alive to your, your present in your surroundings, which, you know, I think training kind of makes you.

Does this kind of event give you the strength you need to keep going, Etienne?