What did leadership look like in an environment where hundreds of people depended on your decisions?

Deadliest Catch was, a- as far as I know, about as big a unscripted production as you could ever have because you were getting, um, t- you know, thousands of tons of equipment from LA to a remote island, uh, uh, on the Aleutian chain and then out into the Bering Sea, along with hundreds of, of staff people.

So first off, it wasn't any single person's leadership.

It wa- So each person had a realm that they were in charge of, and one of my fellow leaders, my, my boss, recognized I was pretty much [laughs] useless at anything except being laser focused on story, and there I could lead.

And, and I guess that's a type of leadership where you can really hold your own with anyone and, and therefore you're gonna get a certain amount of respect for this specific skill, whether you come across a- as a leader or not.

And full confession, I often did not come across as a leader, having to do a lot with my ADHD and so on.

But at the end of the day, I was laser on, the show came out a story and the story came out of these very small teams on six different boats, so approximately 12 to 18 people told the stories, and I was the leader of the story of them.

What inspired that transition? And what problem were you trying to solve?