Yeah, 2007, yeah.

In January of 2008, completely unrelated, I took my son, because I had realized that I was about to turn 30 and never crossed an ocean, so I took my son to London.

And we just happened to be passing by, and you'll know the building, this really strange building.

It's a lot of metal and silver, and it looks like a factory.

It's right in the middle of London, Lloyd's of London.

And this guy is just chain smoking one cigarette.

The cigarette's not even done before the other one is.

Yeah.

So looking for angel investors, any advice you have there?

And a lot of the advice people won't like.

So I'm just going to start off by saying that most founders who've raised will tell you that they spent way too much time on fundraising and not enough time building their business.

So the one thing is it's a major red flag.

If you start telling people, I'm only focused on raising funds and I can't build my business until then.

In some particular cases, there are cases like that that I've seen a lot of deep tech needs that maybe you did legitimately get the Walmart order and you can't fulfill it without a million bucks.

Like, I get it.

So what are your thoughts on like runways and, you know, making sure you have enough to sustain regardless of getting certain funding at a certain point?