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Ethan Healy

Musical artist

Jul 7, 2026

AliciaHOST
7:13
So, you know, there are several things that if you just look beneath the surface, there's more to the story.
7:20
I agree.
7:22
And to go to John Adams for a second, my BA thesis was entirely written on John Adams and his retirement, specifically in sort of how he viewed his retirement and how that affected his legacy and the whole thing.
7:35
But specifically John Adams during the Continental Congress, it may be a hot take, but I don't think there is a Declaration of Independence without John Adams because John Adams was such a really...
7:49
And there's so many different things people say about John Adams, and they get very defensive about him because people call him a lot of things.
7:57
And there are certain aspects of John Adams that are very obnoxious and that are very...
8:04
He could at times be very verbose, but he could also at times be really pushy about a lot of things and really annoying and all that.

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AliciaHOST
18:08
Would you consider these examples of good public history? You know, what works? What doesn't?
AlishaHOST
28:29
Yeah, yeah.
28:30
But my other one, which... kind of along the same line a little bit, is a book that is not written by a historian, but instead written by a philosophy professor named Jason Stanley, which is a book called Erasing History.
28:44
And the subtitle of that book is How Fascists Rewrite the Paths to Control the Future.
28:52
And I think this book came at a very unique moment in in our history where it seems like a lot of our past and American past is being seen through the lens of perhaps a nationalist take, seen through the lens of even people going as far as saying that we are living in a fascist state.
29:14
And I'm certainly not here to correct or undermine any of that.
29:19
But I think Jason Stanley makes a pretty strong argument for specifically how fascists, and not just looking at fascists in things like Nazi Germany, which is sort of the main conversation, but he also looks at other fascist countries and sort of says how it's sort of fascists are very, very, it's a slow burn for them, right? And they do things in a way that it's one thing here, one thing there, right? I think they're right.
29:49
It's not all at once.

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AlishaHOST
35:59
So how has, I guess, our understanding of the revolution changed over time and thinking about, too, like how have those celebrations changed over time?

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