Publishing that.

So I think one of the joys I have with being an independent journalist right now is that, you know, besides just like publishing, barely making any money but I find a lot of free opportunities you know I seek out a lot of opportunities in the community to really grow um and to develop you know because I don't have necessarily the backing of a bigger institution you know to really do stuff and I've been thinking a lot about how even when I've had opportunities to be in those newsrooms that maybe have more established like resources to maybe do engagement stuff or like to share their news it's like we operate specific to detroit you know we do have like a digital divide you know people aren't necessarily gravitating towards online media all the time and i think like um you know people are getting their information from their phones or people are getting things from out in the community or people that they trust they're the radio and so i think a lot about like us sitting here right now and having this conversation is reflective of where we can reach people, where we can be able to provide that information and provide factual, grounded, value-based information.

Because I think so much of what I feel was a challenge for me in being a journalist in other spaces was like, okay, how do I actually stand fully in my values? How do I create work that speaks to what I believe in.

And so the zine was like an evolution of just like wanting to like be in conversation with some of my comrades and organizers across the city and really develop like what could I do if I actually wanted to like, you know, provide information relevant to community folks and I started off talking about my family and coming from a community of immigrants.

And there's a lot of grief with living in the US and being separate from a lot of your extended family.

And even just moving away from family to live in different parts of the country, not knowing your native language, not being able to practice these cultural traditions that really came up for you.

It's a lot.

And that's how people have gotten through it in the past is keeping it going, adapting.