about house

parties, though, because you were quite emphatic.

Oh, honestly, I think, basically, I make a distinction between a house party and a dinner party here.

Dinner parties, love.

I love cooking.

I love the idea of calling friends, family, whoever over.

I grew up in a house my mum would throw ridiculous dinner parties for 60 to 100 people.

It's sad, but it's kind of beautiful.

Really?

And I don't know how religious or woo-woo you are.

I'm not particularly either, but woo-woo things do happen.

At this gig, I went on stage and I looked out into the audience and I'm still convinced to this day I saw her.

because she was wearing the same pink top.

Right, same pink top, and I saw her in the audience.

Because it was two weeks after she died, I fully believed she was there, and the first two minutes of my set, I stumbled over my words, because I was like, I need to speak to mum, I think, because I thought she'd died.

Yeah.

The thing I found baffling is

on a train journey, there's an entry point and an exit point.

No surprises.

And so if there's an entry point and you don't have your means of payment ready, that in itself raises the question, which is, what do you think was going to happen? Because you've already bought a ticket.

So you knew that there was going to be some method of that being checked.

And usually, given that the world we inhabit now and the fact that most train providers will send you a QR code or an automatic ticket, the assumption is that perhaps this will be scanned at some point.

But let's just say, for argument's sake, this person, it is their first time ever using the train or the tube.

And on buses, we're going to have a sort of trap door system and you've got to Flintstone it along the bus journey.

Here, I'm trying to get, for example, I don't know, the Ministry of Justice in America, where they've got, you know, HSBC on a deferred prosecution agreement, checking to make sure that HSBC aren't gonna launder money to drug cartels anymore.

They're coming to me, the CEO and the chairman.

I might be the first or second person they meet, but I've gotta be professional, serious, but warm enough for them to go, "We'll listen to what he has to say."

Yeah.

But when you first start out, you go, "I've got, I've got six minutes, and I'm gonna say those six minutes.

And if you laugh, you laugh, and if you don't, I'm just gonna get in the car and drive and think about it." So in the early days, the, the identification, and I think it's applies to business or whatever.

Okay.

So make sure you do that.

Two, walking.

It is the best exercise for all human beings.

No matter how old you get, you need to be able to walk to the bus stop.

You need to be able to do that stuff.

So the more you walk, the better.

Mm.

[laughs]

I'm gonna punch a Brown person on the way home.

That's not how it works.

Of course, it's bad, but I think that I'm on the side, if we were to talk about this seriously, and not in my c-- as a comedian, I'm on the side where actually just being audacious enough as a non-white person to view myself as an equal and behave like an equal, I think for me, that will make things much better overall.

Um, that doesn't stop me from, like I said, slightly facetiously applying from schemes that would help me.

But fundamentally, I just see myself as an equal, and the color of my skin just doesn't...

I don't see myself as beleaguered in any way.

Sure.