With

Baba and Men Mandalayam.

Four of us were there with Baba.

It was a long stopover, four hours or so.

planes change or something is happening.

Well, we got out of the plane and there was the waiting hall there and we are all seated in one bench here on the bench.

We sat there for about 10-15 minutes looking at the watch.

And he

Mm

... uh, Laxman revered and adored his brother like anything, and he somehow or other by his grace, Laxman had the experience that he is the one, he's the avatar.

So he was the perfect slave there.

And whenever Ram needed something, "Laxman, will you please get us some few dry wood and, uh, twigs and, or something like that, make a fire.

Laxman, can you go out and bring me water? Laxman, uh, find some roots of fru- fruits to eat," something like that, "or go begging for me." And so Laxman would carry it out all.

For years together, he did that.

And the story leads us to a certain year in, in, in this exile, where one day Ram and Sita and Laxman are walking and going towards another place.

Yeah.

I found as soon as I got here that I was unable to read any of the books that I had brought to divert myself.

I just couldn't do it.

And I finally found something I could read, Nero Wolf.

And it's been a real pleasure reading Nero Wolf.

Yeah.

Talk about an entertainment that reminds you of bombings.

Margaret Cross would be sending these books.

Yeah, I heard that.

could call it that.

It is like that.

But this awareness, this feeling sore about it, this...

Total, what do you call it, confusion for all this is the game.

That's what he tells us.

But your duty is to continue to put in all your efforts.

By hook or crook to remember him.

that.

Does it matter if the remembrance is mechanical? Because sometimes you can remember him, but it's just going to be remembering.

Just listen.

Now the whole discourse is not over.

So then the man, Baba is asking him, do you follow? He says, yes.

He says, then have the pictures there, have this sort of thing and remember me.

Then what happens is, this is mechanical remembrance, he says.

Then what happens, the mind seeks, it does happen like that, the mind seeks better reminders to remember me.

You

I find that naturally, What he is trying to say, just throwing a word out through etiquette or fashion or tradition,

and you feel satisfied for having responded to a certain gesture where you should be silently beholden to him, grateful to him silently.

That is more potent than just blurting out the word thank you.

That's what it will imply.

So that's why he said he doesn't mind saying thank you and on the contrary he doesn't mind anything.

But then to the close one he says thank you.

Is that sufficient?

But even that he accepts graciously.

And then

they went on.

Then what happened is that Baba dropped his body.

with all that fervor of going and meeting him and all that so still naturally those who were with him they heard that he dropped the body because it was broadcast also on the radio and all that so they must have heard it picked on the radio she says well now he is no more he has died so what are you going to do she says well I am going there Going there for what? For his darshan and his own innocent way he would say that.

To pay my respects, to pay my homage and all that.

But again and again, purposely they would tease him by saying that, what will you do there? Now that he is not any longer there, what will you do there? Going to gape at the chair or what is there? What are you going to do there? He got so peeved and he says, well...

What was the word? I forget that.

So he was sitting in Baba's room and happened to glance over, and in fact, saw the pot that Baba pissed in, and at that moment, Nara's dog came and lifted a leg.

Baba says,

because the body is given to them to experience the impressions which are there to be experienced and spent.

So if they do away with the body, then without the body they have to do it in a harder way.

That's what Baba says.

I don't know anything about it, but this is what He has said, that never give a thought to committing suicide.

It's better this way to go through it, while still the influence of the Advent is also in our midst now.

So how blessed those who are frustrated and those who cannot bear and commit suicide, it's most unfortunate for them.

later on, not

Yeah.

Why we have to go through heaven and hell states is to spend our impressions.

That means, Baba uses the word spending.

What he means by it is experience those impressions, opposite impressions.

So if there are negative impressions, we call them hell state.

If there are positive impressions to be spent after we are disembodied, then it's known as heaven state.

It's all just the experience of the consciousness.

yeah.

Anything you have to ask? Anything about Baba?

So I never have to ask a question.

Good.

It's wonderful.

What a blessing that Baba has given her.

This reminds me of a nice little humor of Baba.

You know when Baba used to go out for his tours to give darshan to people, to the masses, people were there by thousands, tens of thousands.

And of course that was not the opportunity for anybody to get closer to him or to be just asking anything.

Then there is another one which is good, which I so often tell those who are interested in Buddhism, the story.

And the story is from there, from that state of, as you said, that stage had passed.

Now Buddha is walking towards the habitations.

Towards the habitations where the people are inhabiting.

from a place of solitude, he's coming now back to the city life.

So while he has come on his way, naturally he got sage by his side, then so many, two or three others followed, and so forth, unbeknown to them why they are being it.

It's just a part that I remember reading.

Because he has to labor for every little soul and so many reincarnations and all that.

And

he is just sitting quietly.

Has not much clothing on him.

He is lean and emaciated and all that.

And he is sitting quietly.

there comes a young man by name sage and he of course he is a married man and he has his children and he is he is much worried as to how he can meet both ends he has got beautiful wife he has got good children two children are there And he toils and he labours and yet it's not sufficient to clothe them properly.

He sees the neighbour's wife who is not as beautiful as his wife and she is all adorned with ornaments and has good saris and all this.

that?

India?

Yeah, of India.

And Baba gave him the time to come at 11.

I see him.

So he comes and tonight this happened and to his utter surprise that it is 5 to 11 and there's a whole crowd of people around him.

So being VVIP they are always well controlled by the wristwatches.

So it's now 1 minutes to 11 now.

others around

There is another beautiful story also.

He plays lots of tricks with us, and the story is this happened here in this room.

Some years ago, have you met Charles Haynes? No.

You all haven't seen Charles Haynes.

So Charles Haynes is a professor, teacher of divinity.

He has some students around him.

And the play that the children did the other day was taken from that book Mervan?

Yeah.

Two plays.

There was a lady here some years ago and we were talking about Baba.

Baba.

Of course, the talk in this room is nothing but Baba.

Sometimes we fool about and waste our time in chocolates and sweets and all that.

experience? She's trying to tell you that maybe because he wants us to drown in his ocean.

We came back naturally after some days, two or three, four days.

We had to start work naturally.

We can't just sit like this.

So many things were pending.

So many things had to be done.

Important things were to be done.

I didn't know

where I was going and why does he want me? I don't know.

I still don't know why I am with him.

I don't know.

But it's his pleasure.

But we can deduce something, most probably because it seems that we don't use much of our minds.

That's why less of headache to him.

Yeah, be

Yes, yes.

It's not just his, his present all the time, but that's what I say, that his physi- physical presence.

So then, uh, we said, "What does it mean? We don't understand." So he said that there was, at that time, in a vase, a huge bouquet of Indian roses, which are very fragrant.

We have good roses which has fragrance.

I don't know whether you all have roses with fragrance.

Some do.

Some do, yeah.

stand.[laughs]

Have you heard of that me-mind-and-I thing? That is Baba's thing, what Baba says about it.

It's the tape.

Have you heard that tape? Last time, did I play that tape to you? I don't think so.

You haven't heard it? Don, have you heard that tape of Michael DeCosta? He has put Baba's words in there.

It's a beautiful thing.

Time permitting, we'll play it someday.

Baba

gave a figure about the taste in the mouth.

Each one he had given some piece of chocolate, toffee toffee.

It was there.

Do you all recall that from the diaries? No.

You recall it? Yeah, there is.

Have you heard of that? So he gave, he distributed to the monthly over there.

I wasn't there.

And

of course in presence of Baba, we were all like lambs.

And Chanji, Arnavaji's uncle, was the secretary personal secretary so he would take down notes baba was using board at the time he had started a silence naturally in 30s early 30s so they so while he is but because he has to go visit so he was kaka was putting on socks on baba's feet you know and shoes actually he's putting them and baba is busy you see dictating this and chanji chanji is sitting here and kaka is here and chanji is sitting here so he's doing that so and he says no but baba this is not proper for us to say such a thing I don't remember something.

And Baba just lost his mood.

He said, I'm telling you to do that, and you are trying to give me advice.

And he gave him a kick, you see, and he fell down.

And he sat again, again, he gave him a kick, and he started crying.

like

Shantadevi.

She has kept this property at the disposal of Baba and Baba lovers.

Every summer, Baba would pay a visit here for three months, and she looks after the property.

She keeps the place clean and tidy.

She has kept the service here.

She has kept the phone, the current, the light, and everything at Baba's disposals.

The history of it is, one day, I don't know, I'm very weak with dates, years, and figures, please, so be indulgent if I'm wrong.

I don't remember.

That includes

the very fact and the very concept of our getting realised.

If his love is there, the whole world, including God and God-realisation of the self, are all included in it.

We have Baba and that is all.

One room for anything else.

One great difference is between our concept of a perfect master and the God-man, you see.

We are apt to always think, you see, spiritual aspirants always think in terms of the master, the spiritual guide.

It's a fact, we do.

We take

it so casually now, you see, just a word comes, you see, well, the bird died at Baba's feet and the next form will be human form.

But if we were to know, realise, see and go through the innumerable species the incarnations, the forms in the passage of time, to be something gigantic.

And this is just a casual boon, just because he is the Lord of his creation.

A bird becomes a human form, it takes a human form next time.

The human mind is really not the equipment to assimilate.

How can it be? It has its limitations.

Human mind is not only its limitations, but it is because of the human mind that we are bound by limitations.

At

the time of Lord Kṛṣṇa, at the time there was one of His followers by name Nārada.

Of course, Nārada also appears at the time of Rāma, and then again He appears at the time of Kṛṣṇa.

That doesn't mean that He lived so long, but the name is there, symbolic, is the term is the representation or personification of a human mind, you may call it.

Every time, in every advent, there is one nārada.

So what happened is that this nārada, at the time of Lord Kṛṣṇa once, while he was with the other followers around Lord Kṛṣṇa, his mind started playing a trick with him.

He says that.

you were.