So what did she say about owning property in Martha's Vineyard?

Well, I mean, I think what she's always said, so 'cause this has always been this thing with her about her owning property in Martha's Vineyard, and, you know, yes, you know, we're, you and I are on social media, and we know over the last month or so, Martha's Vineyard is always a big, giant topic for African Americans, especially in August.

Um, so the, the use of her, the, the fact that she owns a home in Martha's Vineyard has also been, has always been used as something against her, as being rich, as being elite, as being out of touch with normal, everyday people.

But, I mean, I, you know, look, her husband has worked for Home Depot forever.

She's a lawyer.

She can afford to live there.

And, heck, [laughs] if I could afford a place in Martha's Vineyard, I would have a Mar- place in Martha's Vineyard.

You're, you're a winner in our eyes.

How does Atlanta compare in terms of number of of black focused outlets or black black journalists compared to other cities

atlanta's right up there i mean one of the things you have to understand of nabj is that uh the atlanta association of black journalists is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year nabj celebrated 50 years last year so as you can see we are one of the flagship chapters right so we have um Obviously, with Atlanta being this black mecca, you know, you think about the fact that in 1928, I believe, the Atlanta Daily World was founded here in Atlanta.

We have many, many black newspapers in Atlanta, black magazines, black publications, websites.

You have, you know, major companies like CNN who are right here based in, you know, who have a big presence here.

And of course, the Atlanta Journal Constitution, where you have me and my team at the UATL.

who are specifically focused on the fact that we're gonna cover black news and black issues.

And we have a editor for the first time in more than 150 years, who's African American.

So what do you – are there certain issues that you think are going to be kind of front and center for this convention? Is there something that's going to be talked about a lot or something that the keynote speakers are going to be focusing on?