i'll say this much before i get into it if it's too hard to talk about it don't you don't have to do it i don't want to i don't want to force you down a dark path sure sure and i appreciate that um

It's something I have spent a lot of time talking about, so I can sort of compartmentalize a bit.

But my journey was actually quite interesting because I kind of had two very disparate experiences because my experience in New Jersey was... overwhelmingly positive for the most part.

And I attribute that mostly to really having fantastic management there.

Honestly, the general manager I had in New Jersey for most of the time that I was there, I consider one of the best managers that I've ever had and someone that I constantly think of when I think of as positive role managers.

models in management.

And honestly, it was a pretty big culture shock when I came over to California and seeing the management that was over there.

Of course.