Or was that like the trajectory that made you kind of go, oh, okay, now I'm getting bigger jobs, I'm getting more name recognition, things like that? Yeah.

I was actually working with Narls Barkley prior to Kanye, and that was what made him hire me.

He was really a fan of my work.

And Narls came around and I did all the costumes and basically the art direction for a lot of it, too.

Oh, wow.

And when I got the brief to do Narls, it was like I just got their sizes.

I had to sign an NDA.

What would you say is your definition of style