If this would be your last interview you've ever done, what would be your message that you would love to leave behind you?

Hmm.

These questions are always so hard.

What would be my final message? I think, um, what I would say is that at the end of the day, it all doesn't matter.

I think this is probably the most, like, potent message in my mind right now, is if you're trying to grow a business and, or you're trying to build something, a product or sell it or get it out there, build a following, whatever it is, and you're frantic about it, you're trying to make it happen, and you're growing and you're stressing out and you're going crazy and everything because the world said that that's what you need to do to be successful.

I think the best thing that anybody can do in any situation is just, like, pause for two seconds, take a step back and be like, "What am I really doing, and why? And does it really matter? Is this, is this really the most important thing?" And I think a lot of people are maybe afraid to do that-

Mm-hmm

... and undersubscribe to life.