
Eric Xing
American computer scientist
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Sep 16, 2026
Morning Call 9/16/26
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Dominic ChuHOST
The debate, is it a legitimate one? Should we be concerned that this is the origin story of Skynet playing out in real time?

Eric XingGUEST
Well, of course, we need to be concerned about safety issues from any sources, including AI.

Eric XingGUEST
But on the other hand, when we talk about threat to humanity, we need to be a little more rigorous.

Eric XingGUEST
For example, we can say that one day the sun will run out of its fuel and extinct.

Eric XingGUEST
But there should come with a probability and also the lifespan, the time taken to get there.

Eric XingGUEST
There is always a trade-off between the cost, the missed opportunity, and also the risk that you actually substantially experience.

Eric XingGUEST
In this particular case, I'm with Jensen and with Mark because I think AI is not developing fast enough.

Dominic ChuHOST
How much do you feel as though that open model is going to act as an effective self-regulatory mechanism for the development of AI going forward?
Siliconsciousness: The Great and Good Disruptive Power of World Models
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David RothkopfHOST
And I'm just wondering, as you deal with new cohorts, are you discovering skepticism from international students that are there about AI? Is anything changing? Do you feel at all what I'm talking about here?

Eric XingGUEST
I, I kinda appreciate, uh, you know, uh, many of your points in terms of the AI skepticism.

Eric XingGUEST
In fact, you know, every new disruptive technology, you know, uh, come to the world, uh, you have the same skepticism.

Eric XingGUEST
In fact, uh, you know, when printing press was brought to Europe, you know, you have this, uh, huge skepticism of losing control, that, uh, people, you know, uh, could have their own books, could, people could read their, their own way of their Bibles and therefore, uh, of course, also job displacement because the calligraphers could not, uh, find the jobs and so forth, right? But, um, at the end of the day, you know, it may take longer, but eventually people realize that technological involvement, uh, uh, advancement, you know, uh, you know, uh, have the ultimate benefit of moving civilization forward, as long as you treat it as a technology rather than as a religion or as a doctrine.

Eric XingGUEST
If you view that as a tool without submitting it, you know, to be a slave to a tool, you actually could, uh, ride on top of it and make use of it, uh, the way you want, or maybe you just put it off and not using it.

Eric XingGUEST
What's happening or what is really, you know, underpinning, in my opinion, the AI skepticism, is the fear that people may submit to AI and then letting go AI to be our master and also to come back, you know, uh, to harm us, you know, uh, to the point that we cannot even control it, without realizing that AI is not basically, you know, a agentive creature that is, uh, you know, not driven by a human stewardship before, uh, behind that.
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David RothkopfHOST
And, and I was hoping that before we wrapped up here, you could talk a little bit about that.
The Great and Good Disruptive Power of World Models
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David RothkopfHOST
And I'm just wondering, as you deal with new cohorts, are you discovering skepticism from international students that are there about AI? Is anything changing? Do you feel at all what I'm talking about here?

Eric XingGUEST
I, I kinda appreciate, uh, you know, uh, many of your points in terms of the AI skepticism.

Eric XingGUEST
In fact, you know, every new disruptive technology, you know, uh, come to the world, uh, you have the same skepticism.

Eric XingGUEST
In fact, uh, you know, when printing press was brought to Europe, you know, you have this, uh, huge skepticism of losing control, that, uh, people, you know, uh, could have their own books, could, people could read their, their own way of their Bibles and therefore, uh, of course, also job displacement because the calligraphers could not, uh, find the jobs and so forth, right? But, um, at the end of the day, you know, it may take longer, but eventually people realize that technological involvement, uh, uh, advancement, you know, uh, you know, uh, have the ultimate benefit of moving civilization forward, as long as you treat it as a technology rather than as a religion or as a doctrine.

Eric XingGUEST
If you view that as a tool without submitting it, you know, to be a slave to a tool, you actually could, uh, ride on top of it and make use of it, uh, the way you want, or maybe you just put it off and not using it.

Eric XingGUEST
What's happening or what is really, you know, underpinning, in my opinion, the AI skepticism, is the fear that people may submit to AI and then letting go AI to be our master and also to come back, you know, uh, to harm us, you know, uh, to the point that we cannot even control it, without realizing that AI is not basically, you know, a agentive creature that is, uh, you know, not driven by a human stewardship before, uh, be behind that.
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David RothkopfHOST
And, and I was hoping that before we wrapped up here, you could talk a little bit about that.