Okay.

Because I had covered terrorism, radical Islamic terrorism.

They want to kill us.

They're here.

They hate Western values.

And I had covered the bombing in 1993 of the World Trade Center.

And the first radical Islamic attack in America by these cells was the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane in 1990.

Tell us about that.

you? Well, what does this milestone, this 25th remembrance of 9-11, what does it mean to you? Does it take you back to that day?

Wow, yeah, it does.

I can't believe it's been a quarter of a century.

I mean, when I think of it, it's not like one day has gone by.

You talk about that plane.

It went over my head that morning.

I'm walking to work.

at the time going down, as you said, to ground zero so many times.

you? Well, what does this milestone, this 25th remembrance of 9-11, what does it mean to you? Does it take you back to that day?

Wow, yeah, it does.

I can't believe it's been a quarter of a century.

I mean, when I think of it, it's not like one day has gone by.

You talk about that plane.

It went over my head that morning.

I'm walking to work.

what is your reaction to the city launching this portal with 170 000 pages of documents dealing with air quality because you were someone that was in that air at the time going down as you said to ground zero so many times

you? Well, what does this milestone, this 25th remembrance of 9-11, what does it mean to you? Does it take you back to that day?

Wow, yeah, it does.

I can't believe it's been a quarter of a century.

I mean, when I think of it, it's not like one day has gone by.

You talk about that plane.

It went over my head that morning.

I'm walking to work.

what is your reaction to the city launching this portal with 170 000 pages of documents dealing with air quality because you were someone that was in that air at the time going down as you said to ground zero so many times

Was there a moment that is seared there where it takes you, at least in mind only, back here?

The smell.

I've never forgotten the smell.

It's a metallic, acrid metal.

It's like you eat metal or eat tin.

Go get some tinfoil, Reynolds tinfoil, and start eating it.

It hits your feelings.

And

Was there a moment that is seared there where it takes you, at least in mind only, back here?

uh this the smell you will never i've never forgotten the smell it's a it's a metallic acrid metal it's like you eat metal or eat tin go get some tinfoil reynolds tinfoil and start eating it that hits your feelings yeah it's oh god it was tasted there it was just mentally tasting that bitter smell uh will always stay with me the dust was overwhelming uh we were not prepared uh we came down we didn't you don't know you wouldn't we were it was it was a horror i'd covered war i've been in war zones active war zones uh and this was a war zone It was an overwhelming, unfathomable horror that those gleaming, gorgeous two towers had been erased and crumbled to the ground in this hellscape of fire and dust and death.

But at the same time, over those first few days, and I reflect on it a lot when I'm here, you couldn't wrap your brain around the fact that there really were no survivors, no one, except for those who were under the survivor staircase, a small group, were able to come out.

For the first few days, the construction workers and firefighters and police officers, they'd come out and they'd say, oh, they found three people here, or they just found some people.

And there was even one moment where I remember they said, oh, we found someone.

He surfed down the building.

Just think of that.

1993 and

And then in the beginning, we would add a stripe, too.

Yeah.

The, uh, the, the flag code says 13 alternating red and white stripes and a new star on a blue field for every time a new state is added.

That is all it says.

So we went to the Eisenhower Library and Museum in Abilene, Kansas, and they have all the records of the Eisenhower administration.

And they said, when I asked, "Well, what, what's the rules? What were the guidelines?" And they said there weren't any.

They had to make it up 'cause the only a- a- a- at, uh, the only guidelines are what I just said.

So would you say up until the '50s is when they stopped adding stripes when a state was added?

Uh, and the focus on this element of the series is?

Yeah, we have, uh, six different segments about mafia stories that people may not know about.

Like in New Orleans, uh, the mob was called the Black Hand.

1890, that was really one of the first families of the, the Italian American, uh, immigrants that came in, and the Black Hand was the beginning of the mafia in New Orleans.

It was the Provo- Provenzanos versus the Matrangas, and they killed the police chief, and there was a uprising by the citizens of New Orleans against the mafia and a mass lynching.

11 Italians were, were lynched, and that started the mafia rule of don't kill law enforcement.

There's also a story of Lieutenant Joseph Petrosino.

And how old is he now?

Let's talk about the mafia outside of New York for a minute.

Yeah, fascinating subject.

I'm dying to do that on, on Fox Nation as part of our series because people, as you said, think of New York and Chicago.

Detroit, okay.

Kansas City had a big family involved.

E- uh, Oklahoma, Indiana, Dallas, of course Tampa.

Uh, places out in middle of America had a mafia presence.

What did you learn about Gotti that you didn't already know?

That is a victory, I would think.

Yeah, it's a victory.

It's a mixed result.

For example, this is what happened.

They think that the people call, Mangione's in the Altoona, Pennsylvania McDonald's.

People there call, and the manager calls Altoona police saying, we think this, the guy who shot Brian Thompson, the guy wanted in New York is here.

Police come up to him, start talking to him.

Is that a big crowd or is it relatively small, a little crazy?

That is a victory, I would think.

Yeah, it's, it's a victory.

It's a mixed, uh, uh, result.

For example, this is what happened.

They think that, uh, the people call...

Uh, Mangione's in the Altoona, Pennsylvania McDonald's.

People there call, and the manager calls Altoona Police saying, "We think this, the guy who shot Brian Thompson, the, the guy wanted in New York, is here." Police come up to him, start talking to him.

Huh.

Who really knows? Where is he? That's the question.

This was planned out so that there would be no body to be found.

They'd...

No, no body, no case, no evidence, and that was the whole point.

Uh, the preponderance of evidence shows that Jimmy Hoffa showed up at the parking lot of the Machus Red Fox, was, uh, picked up in a car, got into this, uh, maroon Mercury, probably, uh, it was being driven by a Detroit mobster named Anthony Tony Pal- Palazzolo, the evidence seems to show.

Billy Jack, Billy Giacalone, who I mentioned in the car, he's a capo, so he's not driving the car.

He has someone driving the car.

... legs to it?

But they would like to take over Yemen, right?

Yes.

Yes.

They did.

They helped topple, uh, the president, uh, a f- number of years ago, and they've, uh, taken over, uh, much of the country.

And they have been lobbing ballistic missiles at us, at our US Navy assets, and th- what makes them so lethal, actually, I think beyond Al-Qaeda and the Taliban now, is you have a small strait in the Red Sea called the Bab-el-Mandeb.

One-quarter of all global transportation, cargo, ships, oil, goes through that little strait, and they've been firing ballistic missiles at these tankers and at these cargo ships and that has strangled global trade.

Mm-hmm.