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Eric Ruggles
Director of Engineering at Ritchie Engineering Co. (YELLOW JACKET), an HVAC/R tools maker; expert guest on refrigerant safety and HVAC diagnostics.
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Sep 14, 2026
The HVAC industry's transition to A2L and A3 flammable refrigerants with Eric Ruggles Part 2
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11:02Gary McCreadieHOST
What, what are your thoughts on the whole A3 thing in general, like using A3s as a refrigerant?
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11:08Eric RugglesGUEST
I think there's definitely both sides, right? The risk to the technician, the risk to those nearby systems that could have concerns, but I think the industry's responding to that pretty significantly with adding required sensors, required leak indication, you know, flame sensors and, and mitigation processes to these systems, especially as they continue to grow and get larger.
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11:26Eric RugglesGUEST
Uh, the big thing I've seen, especially in the global market, is there's larger systems and of A3s, but a lot of the systems themselves that would contain the A3 is, is outside the building, and then they use like a water loop or what I call loop to transfer the heat into the building, so trying to make it a safer environment.
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11:41Eric RugglesGUEST
Now, it's still a risk for the technician because they're the ones that have to deal with it if there is a leak, if there is a problem in the system.
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11:46Eric RugglesGUEST
They have to make sure that we're safely handling any concerns when it comes to, you know, dealing with the actual flammable refrigerant.
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11:53Eric RugglesGUEST
But the systems themselves, they're adding safeties and, and mitigation issues if there were to be a leak or, or flame propagation inside the unit itself.
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13:05Gary McCreadieHOST
What are some of the requirements that had to be changed for an A2L refrigerant when we're pulling a vacuum?
A Practical Guide to R290 and A3 Refrigerant Safety with Eric Ruggles Part 1
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3:26Eric RugglesGUEST
If you have ventilation, if you have airflow, if you're out in the open, flammability risk is very low.
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3:31Eric RugglesGUEST
If you aren't, if you're contained in a inside space where it doesn't have ventilation, then yes, you need to be very cautious because it is flammable.
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3:39Eric RugglesGUEST
Just the propagation rate of the flame is slow, and that's why it's considered A2L.
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3:44Eric RugglesGUEST
It will only burn so fast, whereas A3s, a combustible gas, will explode or burn up the whole stream of gas very quickly.
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13:53Gary McCreadieHOST
So is this one of the ones where you got to remove the O-ring or can this fit on without the O-ring?
HVAC Techs Are Losing Refrigerant Using Gauges & Ignoring Probe Diagnostics - Eric Ruggles Part 2
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7:00Eric RugglesGUEST
Yeah, I would say I'm, I'm not 50 years older running the industry for 30 years or anything like that.
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7:07Eric RugglesGUEST
I think technology's advancing day by day, and we've come a long ways and things are gonna do it for us.
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7:12Eric RugglesGUEST
But I think, like you mentioned, I think probes are probably the way long term because they're easy and you're not taking refrigerant out of the system.
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7:20Eric RugglesGUEST
Now, the advantage of a manifold, whether it be digital or not, is that it's kind of a all-in-one tool, right? You can kinda get a sense of the refrigeration system from one device.