Yeah.

But I think that there's another important lesson learned that I learned after eight years of not being in the hardware game.

And that is that hardware can be done in a way that software can never truly be done.

There's always going to be one more thing that you want to add.

There needs to be.

I ran into this bug.

I could fix it.

And like how you think about Hardware and the things you maybe design into these parts the parts you design in it and things like that as well

the ring.

So this is called the Index 01.

It's a ring designed to solve a personal problem.

That is, I forget things.

Yeah.

so during the day i'll have an idea or i'll remember something that i need to do i need to you know chat with lee so it has a button a microphone i'll press and say remind me to get back to lee oh very cool that's it yeah whole product the whole product is just it's like a voice note recorder built into a ring very cool it's designed to be with you at all times it's waterproof oh very cool shower thoughts but the best part is that you don't need to charge it the battery lasts for years

rather

than using CMs like we did before.

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Pebble watches have you had? Probably in the 20, 20 to 30.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah.

And not everyone is as lucky as I am to have a box like that.

And so I think people You know, there's still some Pebbles going strong after 15 years, but, you know, inevitably things break, smash them.

And so I had to try other smartwatches.

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Pebble watches have you had? Probably in the 20, 20 to 30.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah.

And not everyone is as lucky as I am to have a box like that.

And so I think people You know, there's still some Pebbles going strong after 15 years, but, you know, inevitably things break, smash them.

And so I had to try other smartwatches.

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