So in what way can friction points in the patient journey be ameliorated?

Yeah, great question.

I think we always should start with the unmet need.

What is the real friction in the journey of a patient? And definitely not start with the technology.

Because today, uh, even we're in 2026, we still see long diagnostic delays, fragmented care, uh, very long waiting times, sometimes even years, and now also a gap between what science can makes possible and what pa- what reaches patient, yeah? So that's, that's something new which is coming up with, uh, the evolution of AI.

So technology is, is no longer the bottleneck.

The real challenge is making solutions actually fit into the care infrastructure and create meaningful value.

And I was wondering whether you were able to share with us whether UCB has its own case study in this regard.

I mean, what was your take on this, Eric, when you saw it?

okay so when when you gave me initially like the 30 000 foot view on it and i hadn't read it and i hadn't really been following it because life gets busy um initially i was like thinking, well, normally, yeah, you can trust Alito and Thomas, and you can trust their decisions in this.

Going through this, I'm going to go with the majority on this.

So, yeah, I am changing that, and I found it kind of interesting.

Alito's opinion of it, his dissenting opinion, is really...

I find it problematic because he's looking at a lot of of old stuff.

It seems in there, it looks like he, he's, he's basically saying like, well, the, uh, almost no digital anything really applies because it's not a paper and effect or something like that.

So anyway, any thoughts on this? Because there's a couple of things I definitely want to talk to you about today.