When did you first start with Church Ranch?

Oh, I'm one of the originals.

So actually, I worked for the previous owner beforehand.

And then Brad, the previous owner, was selling it.

And so Brad and Tish came in.

The way I found out was the previous owner called me and I was working at an event.

as an event manager.

Now, when you hire people, do you require that they have a background in event