Yes

... between them.

But the one thing we can say is that you have Marxism and forms of Bolshevism working together with the women's movement, and I think they both kind of come to the same conclusion.

Um, you know, Frederick Engels in the late 1800s will write a book against patriarchy, and he says in that book, like it's, you know, he's like calling the shot about what they're about to do in the, in the 20th century.

But he says in that book, "Look, if you want to destroy the West, you have to destroy father rule.

You have to destroy the patriarchy." And so then later people will obviously pick that up with, uh, Gloria Steinem, also Jewish.

Uh, Betty Friedan, Goldstein.

Mm-hmm.