So what distinguishes Loyola's bachelor's in cybersecurity and what type of student is most likely to thrive in a program like that? Or what are some of the reasons that you might choose a cybersecurity degree over computer science with even an emphasis in cybersecurity?

Yeah, I guess first I want to encourage any students or high school students or, you know, incoming undergraduate students to explore things, right? Like, I mean, I know cybersecurity is like hot right now, right? But, you know, it's not for everyone.

You know, you could have minors, different majors, you know, explore things, getting abroad.

understanding of things, not necessarily technology, but outside of technology is useful.

But to answer your question more directly, our cybersecurity degree, I think, is still very much in high demand.

If you look at all the data from BLS, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, still seeing an upward trend in job high demand.

Also for Loyola in particular, we have a designation by the National Center of Academic Excellence Cyber Defense.

What is it and what's the service commitment involved in something like that?