So to get us started, what does this mean to you? How do we create that more open and honest sort of environment in teaching?

Well, I think that a lot of times students go into the classroom and especially for our courses, which are mandatory, everybody at the university has to take them.

There's a bit of a stigma with these courses that, you know, these are just required.

It's a waste of time.

I got to come in and I'm not really going to learn anything.

And so there's already kind of a bias against English 101 and English 302.

And so I think creating this open and honest environment involves welcoming students in.

So as a bit of a follow up, how do you work to enact these types of goals in teaching? Like what does the more of the logistical space look like or what would you perhaps recommend from your own experience to some of our listeners?