Uh-huh.

Uh, I was working at UC Berkeley for my th- my third job at UC Berkeley, third and presumably last, and the last grad student on the project I was working on graduated, and the new grad students didn't show up because of COVID.

But, um, they were working together, and I had worked on a project with this group, and I had assumed they were going to, um, leverage off the code that I had already written, and I and, you know, the other people in the group, and they didn't.

They wanted to go in a totally different direction.

So at some point I went, "You know, they're paying me to do nothing, or nothing of use." I mean, I'm available, but...

And I- that didn't sit well with me, and I was at retirement age, and my husband has a degenerative neural disease, um, so he's, uh, slowly losing the ability to walk, and he wanted to do traveling as much as he could while he still could.

And so that seemed like another good reason to do it.

Mm-hmm.