It's interesting that Illumina has escaped being sanctioned so far, given it's so important to military hardware, right?

Yeah, I mean, when we mentioned, I mean, just briefly, when we mentioned kind of, you know, hypocrisies or contradictions or double standards, I mean, they've had a few of these in Estonia as well.

No one is perfect in this regard.

I mean, we had the controversy with Kaya Kalas, her husband, privately making... making money in the transit business, making a lot of money once upon a time before he divested after the controversy on the transit business to Russia in a kind of an area of transit to Russia that was unsanctioned.

But it was seen here it wasn't morally correct.

that the husband of the Prime Minister was doing that.

And of course, Kaya Callas has gone on to become the EU foreign policy chief.

But first, we hear how refineries like Ahenysh in other parts of the world have already taken steps to curtail alumina exports to Russia while continuing to operate successfully.