What happens when that ends? You know, is this a durable approach, lock everybody up?

So this is the question that I would, you know, pose to my counterparts in the Salvadoran government when I was at the Department of State, and we would have meetings with them, was around, is this strategy sustainable, uh, in the long term? What are you doing to actually prevent future generations of young people to join gangs? Because many of those risk factors have not gone away.

I mean, you know, the poverty levels in El Salvador continue to be extremely high.

It's not like, you know, you have a lot of foreign investment pouring into the country.

And so that's one huge issue.

The educational system, of course, is another one that's not up to standards that really encourages young people to stay, um, in school.

And then, of course, you've got, you know, other risk factors: drug use, uh, lack of parental supervision, um, you know, critical life events that many of these young people face in, in very complicated neighborhoods.

I guess I'd ask it, does it have to be structural? Is there another way, uh, that, that, that, that, um, it, it doesn't have to be so black or white or, um, you know, such a challenging situation for the individuals that find themselves incarcerated?