Enos, I'm going to start with you, right? What took you from Kenya to South Africa and what life did you build there over the next 17 years?

Yeah, thank you listeners and this team which is organizing this live conversation.

I thank you very much for you for welcoming me to this conversation.

I left my country in 2009, going to South Africa.

And it was when there was a fracas here in Kenya, 2007, 2008.

So the life was almost very difficult for me on my side.

So I decided to go to South Africa.

Enos, so within the Kenyan and the wider East African community, what first alerted you that hostilities towards migrants was becoming a threat to your specific own safety?