What were you thinking at that point? One, you left out the word troublemaker.

Apparently, I'm that too on social media.

A lot of things, depending on who you ask.

Stadium was as electric as I've ever played in it as and watched a game in it as.

I was there for Notre Dame games.

Hell, I was at Notre Dame when we played Notre Dame.

I was there when we played USC games.

Did Arch Manning laughing at the AI video of Holly Rowe getting slapped by Steve Sarkeesian, did that put a damper on the win at all?

Ah

... and the paper in my bed.

I looked at it every morning I woke up and every night before I went to sleep.

You know what they say about goals, "Look at 'em.

Commit 'em to memory." Well, while at the NFL Combine, I'm running my 40 at the conclusion of my senior year.

The NFL Combine, again, for those watching, listening, it is the ultimate job interview if you want to go to the NFL.

I'm running a 40-yard dash, which will dictate essentially where I will be drafted.

Mm.

You see some of that, and do you struggle with that?

That's well said.

Um, I see it a lot.

I, I...

The reason I do not struggle with that is because I believe that maintaining an ignorant opinion is to disrespect your own intellect.

And I would rather disrespect my, quote-unquote, "tribe" if my tribe is being ignorant, than disrespect my own intellect if I have now unlocked the aperture of my mind to a new way, to a better way, to a more righteous way, to a more honest way, to a more just way.

Um, there is a lot of peer pressure to maintaining ignorance, but how can I maintain ignorance? I believe it was Maya Angelou who said, "To know better is to do better." Like-

When do you know if you should disengage from a conversation?

Mm.

At worst, if you set a goal and you don't achieve it, you ruin your self-esteem and your self-efficacy.

My self-esteem and my self-efficacy or your self-worth, y- how you look at yourself, were ruined that day, were undermined that day.

So instead of setting goals, now, Lewis, I have an objective with no limitations.

Small difference, but that small difference will make a huge impact on your life.

A goal, by definition, is an end towards which energy is aimed.

An objective is simply directing energy towards something.

Wow.

And then can you talk to our younger generation, the things that you did to get to where you at and the communication in that world, in the media world?

Man, V, I'll start with the second half of that question.

I think the beauty of what even Texas did, and V, you know this, and what Coach did is like trying to set us up for success.

We used to have press conferences every Monday, maybe, in the North End Zone.

Coach, you'd have to remind me.

It'd be either Monday or Tuesday.

And if you're one of the top players on a team, you know you're sitting in front of him, Bob, and getting asked questions and answering the questions.

How have you balanced creating your personality and who you are now on air with all the things that come along with it, with the love you get, but also with the hate you get? Hell

How'd you decide what to do next?

So this might be my favorite part of the conversation.

Sitting across from one of the greatest at what he ever did athletically, I was not.

Humble enough to acknowledge, I was not.

I looked myself in the league, JK, I looked myself in the eyes in the league, A-Rod, and I said, okay, Acho, you're not going to be a pro bowler.

You're not going to be a Hall of Famer.

You're not going to be an All-Pro.

Is it more excitement, anxiety, nervous? Are you looking for investors? Are you waking up in the middle of the night and go, speak easy, is that the right name or the wrong name? Great question.

So tell us a little bit more about this new show that you got.

Man, I wanted viewers, I wanted football fans, I wanted sports fans to have more content after the game ends.

After the game ends, it's almost like you come to a screeching halt.

You're on your phone, you're talking to people, you're responding to people.

Why not give fans a studio show to watch? And even within the first week of our studio show, we've had the honor of having Lane Johnson call us from his car directly after the game.

beat their week one opponent.

And Jalen Carter spat on a player.

There was no plan beforehand or even conversations beforehand that you could

What do you have going on in your own IPs and what should we be looking forward to?

The last 54 days, I've been in a death sprint.

I've been in a death sprint to create what you see.

Speakeasy, sophisticated sports talk.

I'm gonna do a live daily show immediately following games.

Sunday game, Monday game, Thursday game, I'm going live.

What's the strength of living in LA? The games end at 8 o'clock.

Like how freeing is it? Like what are some of the pros of all the cons too, of being in a space and starting from scratch or doing your own thing?

Mm-hmm

... us the drug of goals did not tell us about the warning signs.

They did not tell us about the side effects.

I was drafted into the National Football League by the Cleveland Browns.

Again, I suggest you are more likely to be struck by lightning than you are to be drafted in the NFL.

One plus million people play high school football.

Roughly 20,000, 30,000 or 40,000 play college football, and again, 250 are drafted.

... where this is something you're not, we're not usually attuned to, kind of especially around New Year's, I would think.