Tell me about when you're trying to get your opponent to say that thing and, you know, essentially she laid a trap for him and he walked into it.

So I remember ages ago, obviously when we were in government, we knew that Labour had set a trap for us.

They wanted us to vote on water quality and, you know, sewage in the water had been a huge issue for the Tories.

And we managed to use a really ancient piece of parliamentary trickery, which essentially meant that they weren't able to vote.

And actually, we flipped it on its head.

And we ended up voting first as a government.

And we were absolutely delighted.

prepare politicians for interviews that might get like that