So you're 23 and then where, where did you go from there?

So I think I tried for a few years, I tried loads of wellness things and I learned about my symptoms and I learned kind of health techniques.

I think like everybody does when they're run down or looking for better health with different symptoms.

So I got lots of benefits from lots of practitioners.

but I didn't get well.

And then you just get fed up and I stopped trying anything.

Plus it's expensive and, you know, it's complicated.

So why do you think that is at this moment?