So what do you think, I guess, most buyers, what do you think buyers, when they're going through this process for the first time, what do you think they think that matters that maybe doesn't matter as much as they think? Do you know one gripe I

have is buyers accommodating people who are not going to live in the home.

So a lot of the time we hear people saying, oh, well, we need a spare bedroom for when guests stay.

And when I ask them, when was the last time a guest stayed with you? They're like, oh, they never stayed with us.

But now that we have a house, we want people staying with us.

they're altering things or they might say, oh, we want a six-seater dining table.

It's like, okay, cool.

What are the biggest mistakes people make when they start that process, the negotiation process?

And how are you feeling that all changed over so many years? Like, how's the feeling of this marketplace for you?

It's crazy to me that Melbourne doesn't have more value in it.

Like, sorry, I mean, there's value there, but the prices don't reflect it.

But then in some ways I'm like, well, it's kind of good for us.

So, look, I think investors are definitely having their eyes on Melbourne because it's just a matter of time.

It looks like a ticking time bomb before it really takes off.

Like all the markets, you know, in a downward turn, they're all going to go up eventually.

Harry's your brother?

Yeah

... which took its cue from a Southern fried chicken chain, Bojangles, and featured, as the base, sweet tea, and then, uh, fried chicken tenders inside, and then had piping of Bojangles mashed potatoes around the edge.It was pretty inspired

[laughs]

I will say from an official capacity, we were lucky our very newly elected mayor of Durham, Steve Schewel, agreed to be one of the judges for the event.

And it was so funny, the night before, Kate received a couple of emails from him where he had stayed up late writing limericks about Jell-O.

Mm.

Which took its cue from a Southern fried chicken chain, Bojangles, and featured as the base sweet tea, and then, uh, fried chicken tenders inside, and then had piping of Bojangles' mashed potatoes around the edge.

It was pretty inspired.

So what, what were one or two of the ones that looked better than they tasted?

I have to go on the record and say this.

[laughs] I'm just kidding.

Bojell-O was beautiful.

I mean, it was one of my favorite molds, but it, it required a lot of gelatin to make the chicken tenders s- stay upright in the- [laughs]