So are you able to explain those in a little bit more detail? And I wonder if listeners can kind of see which one they recognize in their children.

Yeah, absolutely.

So the avoider, they will say things like, oh, I left my homework at school or my teacher said we don't need to do it or the teacher doesn't mark it anyway.

So that's kind of the common things that they'll say.

And yeah, it's really any avoiding type of behavior.

Excuses.

Yeah.

going until the task was

What was the turning point that made you decide to create a different kind of support for families and shift away from your, I suppose, your first career?

Oh, yeah.

So there was lots of different reasons, but from a professional perspective, I just, I always worked with kids that had some learning difficulties.

So whether it was dyslexia or ADHD or, you know, there's a whole bunch.

I won't go, I won't name them all.

So I always had quite a few of those children in my class because I was good at supporting those children.

And At the school where I worked, we had funding up until about grade two for extra programs for these kids.

Yes.