[laughs]

Um, but to, to ask... to answer your question, Matt, I think it's quite a meandering journey.

I know some people have very direct paths in this industry and go from point A to point B to point C, um, in a, a very direct straight line, and mine has definitely been a meandering, um, tangent-filled path.

Um, and it seems like I went from point A to point B directly, um, but there was a lot of mixing and matching, um, in between there.

I think it starts like a lot of people working in animation.

Like, I love Disney.

I wanted to work for Disney.

So I'm, I'm really curious, like how did you get to that point?